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Tomorrow night 8pm guest Michael Rivero

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September 8, 2011 at 5:37 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Kira87
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Does he think that the "truthers" are focusing on the wrong issues when they talk about things like no plane at the pentagon, and controlled demolition, and that we should be focused on who was responsible and who benefitied, who knew, etc. 

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September 8, 2011 at 5:47 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Nin Nii
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What do you think of the big bang theory?

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September 8, 2011 at 11:11 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Nin Nii
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Hm 9/11 questions.

Was the shoddy video they released of the plane hitting the pentagon a lure for a psyop?


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September 8, 2011 at 11:14 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Kira87
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Not so much a question, but something that everyone should remember, and most seem to have forgotten. At it's core, the attacks of 9/11 were faith based, the conspiracy theories all focus on what role the government played, and there may be some truth there, but what is undeniable is that faith DID play a role in the attacks, these men didn't crash those planes into buildings to aid the government in some outrageous scheme, no they did it because they GENUINELY believed it would result in paradise, they did it because they felt it was what god wanted. The back and forth these ten years has lost sight of that, they neglect the obvious role of religion in these events, and not just the Muslim role here, the Jews, the Christians, and I'm sure others used this to furter their agendas and platforms just as much as the government did. The people that planned and carried these attacks out were also not some back ass desert dwellers that had no idea what they were really doing, they were college educated, middle class men, who were still so blinded by faith that they killed 3000 people in the name of invisible friends.

Next time you see the awful footage of those planes hitting the towers, and hitting the pentagon, before you start crying conspiracy foul, I want you to remember that these men killed all those people for god, the next time you hear the calls to family members from people in the planes and the towers, remember that these people died for faith, when you hear the voice of Ken Cosgrove as that tower comes crashing down, remember that he is screaming because men of faith, men of god crashed a plane full of innocent people into a building full of innocent people, none of them asked to be a part of their so called religious war, but they all paid the price for blind faith, in invisible men. Those families lost their loved ones because of delusion, so next time you want to spout off about missiles at the pentagon, or bombs in the towers, or the host of other bullshit you go off about with your conspiracies, remember this, the men that really killed all those people, didn't give two shits about that agenda, they did it for god, and you do all the victims and their families a disservice when you forget that, you speak of truth, but you forget the most blatant truth of all from that day, faith kills.

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September 8, 2011 at 11:59 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Nin Nii
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Do you know any athiest jokes?

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September 9, 2011 at 12:51 AM Flag Quote & Reply

mysticman
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Kira87, you are participating in a media supported delusion that has been discredited by scientists and scholars alike.  However, I must agree.  Faith can kill.  Faith in politicians, faith in CNN, faith in the military, faith in capitalism, faith in the medical industry, faith in every little lie that comes out of the mouth of men/women. 


People are gullible and easily led.  It's not the pawns who are responsible for their fanaticism, but the men who raise, teach, and train them and foster that fanaticism towards some larger end.  Whether it's jihadists, Christian evangelical war-mongers, right-wing radio hosts, or doublespeaking politicians, fanaticism is alive and well on both sides of whatever fence you perceive.

No disrespect to those who lost their lives in the 911 attacks, but that event is part of a much larger international tapestry and timeline.  It is just as important to pay respects to those who lost their lives yesterday, as it is to pay respect to those that will lose their lives tomorrow.  The terror and horror continues in the name of a lie and on the faith of a populus that believes everything that they're told.

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September 9, 2011 at 8:05 PM Flag Quote & Reply

Kira87
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I don't deny that the gov could have played a role in 9/11 there's evidence there, but the fact is faith driven nut jobs did in fact pilot those planes into those buildings, the gov conspiracy shit is a serparate issue, and for the record I do think that at least some had prior knowledge of the attacks and let it happen, but that doesn't let faith, and god off the hook here.

That being said yes we should mourn all loss of life equally, I won't dispute you there

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September 10, 2011 at 12:33 AM Flag Quote & Reply

mysticman
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I'm not convinced that those planes were piloted by the alleged hijackers, nor whether they were even the same commercial planes that they were reported to be.    Believe nothing, question everything.

Regardless, there are plenty of "faith driven nut jobs" to support your argument.

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September 13, 2011 at 10:32 AM Flag Quote & Reply

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